RaMafia Special - The End

[Darl]

The converted players are still able to contribute normally with their original faction, only their win condition is altered.

Isn't the win condition the only difference anyway between all of us? I don't see why Cosmic Sarasa would contribute to the mafia then. Unless maybe, he considers himself to still be loyal to them. And if that is the case, then he could as well have lied to you.

Wouldn't it be weird that, after the first night, one mafia just stopped communicating with the rest? The converted person retains everything: role and abilities. When an independent is checked, it will say: townie/mafia AND independent. CosmicSarasa acting as a Mafia was not because he wanted the Mafia to win, but because we needed them. Our interests ran side by side, I don't care if you're dead or converted, both states represent the same thing to me at the end of the day.

and lastly Amadis.

Oh, this would explain how the mafia learnt about the identity of the paramedic so fast. And if what you say is the truth, then Jerenemies arresting Klodas could've as well been a lie. And oh well, Cosmic Sarasa turned out to be a mafia.

But then, there is the claim from Amadis that he's the scientist, and one from mfc that he checked the scientist and he was clear.

Though we have no way to check whether or not you're telling the truth. If we kill you now, you're a mafia and Cosmic Sarasa is still alive, he could change your death report by saying you're a civilian. If we keep you alive and believe you by not attempting to lynch Cosmic Sarasa, then we'll never know until it's all over.

I'm not changing my vote.

Hey, mfc also checked me and he said I was a townie. The only person able to unconver Amadis is... Amadis himself. The Scientist is able to check ABILITIES, at the same time he's uncheckable because his passive allows him to reflect the user that attempts to target him. Of course he'd be a Townie, wasn't mfc, who checked him, a townie himself?.

The fact you want to hang a dead man relates to his abilities as the Coroner, which you don't know entirely. This is a bastard round of Mafia, you shouldn't trust what Ramond says completely. Of course, why would you trust me then? Well, who wouldn't trust someone doing something out of spite? I made a deal with Amadis and he broke it, and if I'm going down, he does, too.

Of course, you can waste another day, my game here is already over at the very least and I don't mind seeing the circus unfold.


EDIT: Ninja'd.

[A-Man]

Wouldn't it be weird that, after the first night, one mafia just stopped communicating with the rest? The converted person retains everything: role and abilities. When an independent is checked, it will say: townie/mafia AND independent. CosmicSarasa acting as a Mafia was not because he wanted the Mafia to win, but because we needed them. Our interests ran side by side, I don't care if you're dead or converted, both states represent the same thing to me at the end of the day.

I see. I admit I didn't think about it from the mafia's point of view.

Hey, mfc also checked me and he said I was a townie. The only person able to unconver Amadis is... Amadis himself. The Scientist is able to check ABILITIES, at the same time he's uncheckable because his passive allows him to reflect the user that attempts to target him. Of course he'd be a Townie, wasn't mfc, who checked him, a townie himself?.

Yes, I was close to accusing mfc of lying for that. Amadis had some quite op abilities.

The fact you want to hang a death man relates to his abilities as the Coroner, which you don't know entirely.

Yes, but try looking at it from my perspective. It was proved the coroner is a mafia, and I did not imagine something like a 3rd group composed of members of other 2 groups would aspire. In addition, it's unheard of that a coroner can speak after death. The simplest explanation was that he was still alive.

[Darl]

The fact you want to hang a death man relates to his abilities as the Coroner, which you don't know entirely.

Yes, but try looking at it from my perspective. It was proved the coroner is a mafia, and I did not imagine something like a 3rd group composed of members of other 2 groups would aspire. In addition, it's unheard of that a coroner can speak after death. The simplest explanation was that he was still alive.

Please, don't misunderstand me, your way of thinking is correct and according to reason. This kind of round forces you to think outside the box too much, and as far as I know, it's the first time it's hosted here. It's not surprising you'd stumble a bit here or there. It's just experience. I've been stumbling literally all the way up to today trying to understand every twist lel.

[Rhino.Freak]

I've been stumbling literally all the way up to today trying to understand every twist lel.

You're the biggest twist here :P

[Darl]

I've been stumbling literally all the way up to today trying to understand every twist lel.

You're the biggest twist here :P

My only regret is that I didn't try to get Amadis killed before we reached a Mexican standoff

[mfc]

Seriously Darl, when I first contacted you, you must have seen how disappointed I was, Monk was supposed to convert, you were a boring monk... If only you told me.. Even If I didnt trust at beginning, I wouldnt have any doubts as game progressed.

Well, I am excitedly waiting for next round to begin

And no way that previous round was more fun. Even Apoc himself said it was boring because no important role etc.

This game, the one with the most boring role turned out to be best. The inactives ruined the game. That is a shame. But next round (ramond pls make a next round) wont have those inactives probabşy and will be more challenging for both wait-3 sides.

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And amadis, you are the only player that made no sense... You should have followed darl advice and become monk team to win. Now you lost

[AmadisLFE]

Sure, I will admit I am Mafia. Also @Darl "Mexican standoff" Wtf? lel

You know, I did a pretty lousy job at the part, I forgot to tell Mfc to not post the comment that I told him that Darl is a monk. Oh well.

Yes Darl I did double-cross you, but only for a plan. I also like to take a few risks.

To be honest its like that Nave and Mfc thing again. Where Mfc thought he was Mafia and Nave didn't let mfc know of the other Mafias and then mfc posted everything in the thread, except this time, as mentioned before, I forgot to tell mfc to not post in the thread about this. GJ btw Darl.

Oh well, its not like this changes anything. You can go kill me or someone else(Please don't actually kill someone else), I'd have to be lynched one day.

Btw @Ramond
Very nice monk Idea, I hated it xD.

You want to know all my findings? Here you go also, I never checked Ariel:

All my results (Click to View)

1. Prince_Freeza The ARTISAN (Town)

Active: x1 use, if the Artisan is targeted, they can redirect the lynch to another person.

Passive: At the end the night, the Artisan will learn of the abilities that were used on him, that is if they survive.

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2. Darl the MONK (Neutral)

Active: Every odd numbered night starting with night 1, Darl can convert someone to Neutral.

Passive: Darl wins the game when only the converted people are alive.

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3. Apocalipsis the NECROROMANCER (Town)

Active: 2x use in the nights, the necroromancer can revive someone dead for the Day, they can vote and talk.

Passive: Apoc can't die, he however does lose his Active, he can still participate normally.

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4. Mfc the MENTALIST (Town)

Active: He will ask of a professions alignment and it will return as Mafia or Townie.

Passive: Knows the name of the night target, unless its himself in which case he gets a random name instead.

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5. Tornado the PARAMEDIC (Town, dead)

Active: Can save someone at night, cannot save himself, cannot save the same person twice in a row.

Passive: Can survive 1 hit from the mafia.

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6. Rhino the GRAVEDIGGER (Town)

Active: Can hide someones death for 3 phases, 1x use day-time ability.

Passive: When killed at night, the day is skipped.

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7. MangaD the GOVERNOR (Town)

Active: MangaD can add a secret day vote.

Passive: Votes against him are reduced by 1.

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8. Ariel the SPY (Town)

Active: Checking ability similar to mine, Role and Abilities returned.

Passive: He will return Mafia when checked.

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9. Jernemies the COP (Mafia, Currently neutral)

Active: Can roleblock someone at night, cannot role-block same person twice in a row.

Passive: Appears townie when checked.

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10. CosmicSarasa the CORONER (Mafia, Currently dead and neutral)

Active: Can modify death reports for 1 time.

Passive: Appears townie when lynched, passive is changed.

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11. Empire Fantasy the PRIVATE EYE (Town)

Active: Can check ones role at day.

Passive: EF's Votes are counted as a double.

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12. Nave the GODFATHER (Mafia, dead)

Active: Can add a secret lynch vote at night.

Passive: Checks and stuff return inconclusive.

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13. A-Man the DOUBLE (Town)

Active: Can copy role and ability of the Mafia's target.

Passive: Checks and stuff return inconclusive.

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14. Amadis the SCIENTIST (Mafia)

Active: Same as Ariel, returns Role and Abilities.

Passive: Abilities are reflected back at the one who used it.

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15. Simon the JOKER (Town)

Active: One-Time Abilities: 1) Can save someone at night. 2) At night, can cast a lynching vote in secret (appears as ???). 3) At night, can cast a lynching vote in public (appears as done by the Joker)  4) Can learn abilities of someone. #4, #2 and #1 is used.

Passive: Day lynches don't succeed against him.

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16. Klodasmone the VIGILANTE (Mafia)

Active: Can send a fake PM to someone via Ramond.

Passive: Appears townie when checked I believe, also lynching him wont kill him the first time he is lynched.

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17. Hellblazer the INSOMNIAC (Town)

Active: Per night The Insomniac can send a PM to Ramond and use his ability on someone, if they survive the night, the Insomniac will find out if the target used a night ability and on whom.

Passive: The Insomniac, if he has survived the night, he will learn which players used night abilities on him and one of their roles.

Good round though xD Better than my first ever experience, eh....Can someone rate on how well I did as Mafia compared to the previous time? :P

[mfc]

Even if you were planning me to not share it with public or anyone else at all, you need a very good reason beforehand. And you forgot telling it at all lol. Apart from last moment screwedness, you did a good job deceiving everyone and collecting info you evil scientist.

Nave had to share all other mafia names and roles in order to prevent me from publicizing everything but I dont know what reasoning you had in mind lol.

[T.O.R.N.A.D.O]

@Amadis, I hated you. Yes I am dead and posting here. All because of you slimeball.

[AmadisLFE]

Go work together and defeat the Mafia townies xD..............Lol

@T.O.R.N.A.D.O
Aw come on.....xD

@mfc
Really man? Geez don't gotta call me evil :P