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sweet spot / critical hit
#1
i have just finished updating clides D^A
and i've managed to make a hit range far smaller than usually possible

this move will now either be a normal physical hit (when your opponent is within the yellow range on the gif)
or the standard energy hit (orange range)
or a critical hit (red range)
and otherwise of course no damage at all (green arrow / out of range)
the starting position of rudolf differs very little every time

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if you dont understand it consider this:
the normal minimum range of an attack is (considering the itr has a width of 1) the width of the bdy being hit
because the 1 px itr can overlap with the bdy anywhere from its very right to its very left
you cannot go below that

now until i put the new data for clide online
how would you realize this?
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Actually the idea sounds basic, but i dunno why it wasn't done in that extent already, neat work!
If i ever come to continue working on a LF2 character, i will probably add this... sounds like a valuable new gameplay concept...
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(12-31-2009, 08:43 AM)Blue Phoenix Wrote:  over 99% will not be able to do this before their 20th birthday.
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you only have two hit zones am i getting that right?
a normal itr hit and a critical hit (for which you put the attacking character into a different attacking frame through itrk8 on a previously spawned object which had to align to him first (after aligning to the opponent, which is the crucial step to determine distance and thus make the hit range much smaller than the hit bdy))
took me a while to understand your writing

should work - great

lucky me i dont have to put clide into a different attacking frame because i have seperate hitting animated objects doing the 2 stronger hits - if they dont hit clide has to hit physically himself
mine is almost the same except i dont have to spawn a type 0 for my case
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(08-03-2011, 08:37 AM)YinYin Wrote:  you only have two hit zones am i getting that right?
correct, though this can be increased by having different ik8s on char2 bringing it back < on different frames, then char1 having multiple ik8 levels to go to different frames for the different strengths

(08-03-2011, 08:37 AM)YinYin Wrote:  mine is almost the same except i dont have to spawn a type 0 for my case
i'm guessing object1 ik8s back to char1 using different ik8s (for different strengths), so it's the object doing the damage rather than char1. that'll save frames for the attack, so that's better than the char solution



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(12-31-2009, 08:43 AM)Blue Phoenix Wrote:  over 99% will not be able to do this before their 20th birthday.
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But doesn't itr/k8 require new special bodies? If you are creating a new char it is impossible to success it (sure you can add to the end of the readme a work list like bluna) but if ur going to add this ur new lf2 mod, with a little effort, it would be fantastic!
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The advantages my method uses is that multiple hit zones are possible.. more than just 2.. and its quite straightforward. No complex ik8 or opk2

EDIT: oh.. wait.. you want a method that doesn't just affect the damage and stuff.. but also displays a different effect?

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Hmm.. just hypothetically speaking.. but I could modify my original theory to work with the effect thing.
Instead of just regular itrs in clyde...
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one question from the dc noob i happen to be: how do u actually time an attack like this? (like charge up and when the opponent is at your favored distance, press release? (otherwise I can hardly imagine timing an attack at these small different lengths (the differences in your pic are like one millimeter...)
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(08-03-2011, 07:32 PM)Azriel Wrote:  i'm guessing object1 ik8s back to char1 using different ik8s (for different strengths), so it's the object doing the damage rather than char1. that'll save frames for the attack, so that's better than the char solution
well only if you dont need a different character frame and the included hit lag etc
(08-04-2011, 02:53 PM)xmfcx Wrote:  But doesn't itr/k8 require new special bodies?
it does not - works perfectly fine on normal bdys
(08-04-2011, 03:09 PM)Siegvar Wrote:  
proof you aren't as rusted as you may think

your method is great
i have initially thought of doing it that way too
but at some point my mind told me that it wouldnt work because the final critical itr is still 1px (which does normally get the range of the attacked bdy)
but the weaker itrs acting beforehand effectively prohibit that
why havent i at least tried it ... (affinity works that way too after all)
oh well

might rework mine with this to reduce the chance of glitches

btw i'm using itr kind 9 for the actual hit (and showing the animation) aswell - i see no problem with reflecting blasts there

(08-04-2011, 04:52 PM)Sheldeee Wrote:  one question from the dc noob i happen to be: how do u actually time an attack like this? (like charge up and when the opponent is at your favored distance, press release? (otherwise I can hardly imagine timing an attack at these small different lengths (the differences in your pic are like one millimeter...)
that millimeter can go down to exactly one pixel
youve got several options (as a player for clides move):
  • sheer luck
  • dance of pain - adjust your position - attack
  • super awesome 1337 skill (critcal hitting whenever you perform the move)
and as a dcer you can of course make it easier for the player with something like this for example

but since the critical hit on clide is so overpowered it should not get any easier to pull it off - would defeat the point of it
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hmm... why do i think that if this was already invented nobody would rlly know about it and most ppl go with sheer luck, like it was with DCing? =p
nice work x.x as a n00b in DCing (just got started!) i dont understand a word =p (still dunno all the kinds/states/effects and have to look them up on the mainsite).

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