1.9c Mirror bug

[Gad]

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[Monolanier]

Hello!
Maybe a topic with answer exists, but I can't find it .

I've installed Lf2 1.9c on Windows 7, because I'm annoyed that I need to make mirror sprites.
Unhopefully it somehow still gets messed up.

Lf2 1.9c client acts exactly like 2.0 one and if it doesn't find mirror file it uses normal one as the mirror, but unflipped :/
So character you can't really tell what is character doing, because frames are messed up.
I hope you understand what I mean. Is there anyway to fix it? I don't wanna to have 100 more _mirror files. Its messy.

I have heard rumos that only 2.0a has mirror thing

[zort]

For the record, 2.0a is also smart enough to make do without the _mirror files. "In case the mirrored pictures are not provided, LF2 will try to do the mirroring programmatically. It means even you don't provide *_mirror.bmp, LF2 may still work," says Marti. But it sounds like your video card doesn't support the flipping function anyway.

[Boop]

You need to have the mirror files. That's the point of the mirror files. The mirror files exist as a solution to the problem. It's to do with lf2 being built on ancient libraries which are out of date for current hardware. The fix is the mirror files.

[Monolanier]

But 1.9c didnt support mirror files, wtf?
It still gets bugged on my 1.9c not on 2.0a!

I've just tried installing in different paths like 5 times, doesnt matter wherever i place it.

do not know for sure, just heard some rumors.
Rumors are rumors...

Ramond edited this post 04-26-2013 11:21 AM because:

Gad knows about the possibility to include mirror sprites in 2.0a, he just wants to avoid it if possible.

[Ramond]

So most likely the problem existed pre 2.0 as well, thought of that? You make it sound like because 1.9c didn't support mirror files the problem shouldn't occur.

Also what's the big deal with creating mirror sprites - you do it once and then you're done. (Even if you do it only after finishing all the sprites.)

You need to have the mirror files. That's the point of the mirror files. The mirror files exist as a solution to the problem.

QFT

[empirefantasy]

If you want to play with 1.9 1.9c and 2.0, you must use an computer which has a old graphical card that flip sprites. If your graphical card is new it cant flip sprites then you must use 2.0a, which contain mirror sprites.

There is no way to play 1.9 in a new computer (video card) without sprite bug.

[Ramond]

http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4054
This seems to be the only topic concerning mirroring for 1.9c, but since there's no real answer to your problem I guess there isn't any practical solution.

For the mirroring, as I said you'd only have to do it after completing all the spritesheets (if it's going to be something you're gonna release), or only after every major change. In any other case there still is this practical tool: http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=3348

[Boop]

but what if I want 1.9c, not 2.0 ffs?

You can't. That is the point of 2.0a, to allow people to play without messed up sprites. The mirrored sprites exist for the sole purpose of fixing this problem. That is the fix to the problem. To use mirrored sprites. You cannot use 1.9c with a computer that cannot flip sprites because it's impossible. That is why marti added flipping spirtes in 2.0a. He added them to fix the p̳̳̽͋ṛ͚͋̌o͉̞͗̇b̡͕̽̚l̡̙̂̽è̯͈͆m̜̤̌̏ with sprites. You cannot play without mirrored sprites because it is impossible. When you try to run it without mirrored sprites it cannot flip them. It's impossible. It's too late. The center cannot hold. He comes.T̸̨̛̮̠̹̻̟͖̹̘̳̭̞͍̤̹̙̠̪̗̘̼͎̖̦̰͎̗̗͍̙̺̏̆̂͑̒̈́̊͒̅͊͊͊́̅̓̈́̃̉̆̓̄͆̄͐̀̾̓̔̌͋̓̈́̅͂͑́̎́̉̊̆͊͗͗̎̃̆̌̎̓͗̐̈̿̇̆̚͘̚͜͝͝͝͝͝͝͝͠ͅơ̴̧̢̢̨̡̨̡̛̖̹͇̹̹̫̰̠̩̺̪̬͈͖̞̫͓̟̱̻̙̟̱͍̞͓̜͔̖̮͚̬̭̬̦͔̙͖͖̬̯̼̙̪̣͔͖̞̜̤̆̑̒̈́̃̓̅̀̍́͊͒̀̂̋͐̔̅̅̓̐̎̽̀͂͐̋́̀̀͛̑͆͑̽̀̊͊͌͑͂̍̔͂̉͛̓̍̍͑̄̉̉̂̽̄̅͊̚̚͘͜͜͜͝͝͠͝͠ͅn̸̡̨̧̨̡͖̗̠̺̬͔͉̗͚̯̰̘̼̱̖̞͔͍̗̰̺̘̩͔͍̺̜͉̻̬̜̩̤̬̠̣̖̜̘̦̟̠̯̟̖̲̱̞̦̭̥̣̫̭̱̞̖̣̫̺͇͇̲̝͙̲͋̓͒̃͗͑̉́̒̍̀̉̀̈́̾̓̽͌̊̊̈́͑̇̒͗̌̿̒̈́̊͌̈́͂͋̿̒̇̎̒͆̃̋̑̈́̉͘̕͘̕̕͜͜͠͝͝͝y̴̧̢̢̧̧̛̛̖̪̤̗̳̝̩͓͙͔͎̻̩̘̲̣͚͔͈͙͙̠̠͉̞̫͙̩̞̩̺͉̖͈̠͇̭̺̖̪̙̻̬̰̯̦̠̱͖͕̲̳̩͓̫̖̙͈̞̙͇̫̺̘͇͗̐̀̇͆͗͑̾͒̃̈́̔̅̂̄́̀̍̅͂̑̓̃͘͝͝͝͝͝͠ͅͅͅ ̵̧̢͙̜͍͖͉̘̱͖̺̣̤̤̲̲̼̖̤͙̱̦͍̉̿̀̉̿̌̀̇̓̎̉͊́̊̃̆̅͂̎͋̏̎͘̕͠͝͠͝ţ̷̯͎̱̱̼͇̘̠̣͎͚͕̮͉̞͓̠͍͎̊͌͆͐͊͂̒̈̐͊͒́̊̍̆́̏̿̿̽̕̚͘͝ͅḧ̴̨̡̨̡̺̜̮̺̰̗̻̭̰̰̪͔̮̟̝̬̳̯͓̤̼̘͓̭̩̺̣̹͔͕̥͙̮̪̱͖͕͈̬̺͓̙̜̤̮̥͈̥̗̺́͆̀̎́̓̃̌̈́̈́͆̾̌̀͌̿͋̔̋̽̀͐͌̓̑̌͗̽̐͐̆̀̎̽̉̌̕͜͠͝ę̴̨̛̜̱͉̰̼͕̙̙͈͎͎̜̙̳͈͖͔̞͉̼̙̘͚͇̙͈̼͗̓̈́̀̈̏͒̂͐̄̿͐̔̿̄̒̎̋̊̏͆͋͂̆̔̃̄̀̔̐͋̈́̚͘͜͜͜͝͝ ̸̢̢̛̝̰̙̥͉̳̳͕͇̜̖̜̭͚̻̱̦̝̝̹̦̭̯͚̤͎̟̭͚̙͇̣̐̔̀̾̂̆̑̀̅͊̑̔̀̏͒̀͐͂̒̓͐͑̈́̈́͛̍͗̀̈͑͑͒̂̀̉̾̌̀̍̍̚̚̕͘͜͝͝͠͝p̴̢̧̢̨̨̜̝̳̹͈̖̩͈̬̬̭̫̼͎̩̖̗̤̟͇͎̩͎̣̣̞̣̪̭͓̮̰͈̼̖͎̞̺͕͖͙̥̲͙͙̤̮̞̘͍͍̖̳̺͖̯̍̎͋͂͊͋͒́̆́̈̾̊̃͌͂͆͊̇́͂͜͜͠͠ͅͅo̶̢̨̨͇̪̯̱͔͍̫̜̖̤͕̼͉̙̙̗̞͇̘̥̪͇̩̠̩̠̗̭̩̮̭̜̺̤̝̲͊̈̅̋̅̆͐̂̋͌̀̑̂̈̏͊͛̅̐̊̃̇̿͑͗̓͗͛̈͑͛̓̀͛͆͑̌̈̔̕͘͜͝ͅn̴̡̢̧̛̛̛̥̪̘̘̻͕͔̟̘̰͙̼͚̖͇͉͇̘̥̠̝̟̬̰͙̺̣͚̮̯̩̹̝͔̻̭̜͙̹̗͎̬̞̹͇̮̫̯̦̼̖̰͓̞̥̰͇̣̩̥̜̗̜͍̉̌͋̅̇̂̈͋̈̿̏́̌͒̈̈̇̅̿̍̍̐̉͗́̉̊̑̌̂̇̍̅̚̕͘̚̕͜͜͜͜͜͝͠ͅͅy̵̨̡̡̧̛̦͇̝͎͇̩͇͍̳̭̜̣̝̻͇̹̤͍̤͓̪̖̯͔̱͔̼̼̰̞̥̳̯͍̟̯͚̰̘̱̭̗̺̮͚͙̤̮̣̫̭̥̙̣͊̑͒́͑̇̎́͐̆̉̊̅̓̍̈̾̒̒͋͂̂̀̅̓̿͒̚̚͘̕͠͠͝ ̸̧̧̛̲͇̳͎͓͉̝͈̬̞̘̫̜̺̭͖̩̬͓͎̺͙̲̰̮͈͓̠̥̞̼͖̯͕̦͎̦̼̲͚͙̥̥̟̈́̇̽͐͗̆̇͛̊̓̃̀̿̈̂̇͌̿̑̎̇̌̿̍̂̈̓͌͊̂͌̂̔͛̓̊͐̓̈́̀͒̉̅̑̒̒͑́͌̔̿̑́̌͗̿͗͛́͘̚͘̕̕͝͝͝͠͠͝͝͝͝͝ͅh̵̨̨̢͇̣̤̤̩̺̰̤͍̬͓͓̲͚̲̭̹̦͚̣̼̠̺͈̪̬͔͙̳̩̫̰̹̣̫̲͔̰̭̙̺̫͍̦̙̤̙͔͇̤͓̠̫͖̖͒̊͒̊͐̀́̿̄̓͋̓̓̈͐̃̇̈́̎̚͘̕̚͜͜͜͠͝ͅͅͅe̶̢̡̡̨̢̛̬̗̖͉͚̘̦̹̹̖͙̹̫̘͍̼͇̣̫̱̦̝͚͎̜̞̥̲͉̮͙̩̖͙̫͍͑͒́͒͋̓͑̉̄͒̎̍͌͗̄͆̉̅̂̄́͊̓͋͆̾̂̓͋̉̈́͊̈́͌̎͒̌̄̚̚͘͜͠͝͠͝͝͠ ̵̢̢̬̬͖̝̹̻͚̲̱̯̹̱̹̯̱̲̟̤̩̣͍̜̹̮̫̱̙̣̮̗̜͇̞̱̹͚͖̺̯̟̫͔͇̟͑̆̌͊͛̿̍̆͊́̍̒̊͑̉̈̾̑̊̌͋̊͊͒̐̓͊̽̌̾̉̑̚̚͜͜͠͝͠͠ͅç̸̧̖͓̭̗̣̙̪̜̞͎̯̤̭̤̥̟̻̹̮͇̱̜͍̘̥̺̠̝̙̺͖̠̫̹̼̱̜̦̞̬̞͉̀͌̿͆̓̽̿̑̇̌̓͐̅̊̈́͛̈́͒̏̔̓̏̈́̓͒͑̑͗́̐̉͂̀͌͑͂̚͜ŏ̵̢̳̟̱̯̫̼̯̭̖̘̠̼̠͖̣̬̝̘̤̞̣̲̭̠̙̗̝̆̏̽̉̅̓̈́̉̂̋̽̈́̉̔͋͊̈́̄͐̅̉̔̈́̊̋̔̀̀̄̑͋̾͜͝͝ͅḿ̶̢̢̢̨̛͓̭̖͉͈͎̖̖̩̲̺̤͎̱̝̻͈̣̰̜̹̜͇͓̪͕̦͇̬̺͙̙͚̽̿̊̔̇̄͛̿̍̈̅͂̀̓̆̈́̔̆̋͐̑̐͒̀̓̂̂́̍̔͊͒̾͒͋̈́͘͘̚̕͘̚͝͝͝ȩ̵̧̢̢̢̧̧̛̠͚̪̤͔͎͕̬͓̫̗͖͖̥̟̘͚̻̺̟͉͓̬̫͓̙̗̮̭͙̞̯̗̭̳̱̣͔̖̗͈̗͕̮̤͚̩̳̖̩̜͓̾̐̃̓̓̍́̽̂̽̾͊͌͐̄̈̑͗͆̏̽͂̓̂͊̅̌̏͒̒͂̿̓̈́̍̓̽̉̾̾̔̑̓̔͋̐͌͌̇̓̈̐͆͘̕̚͜͝͠ͅş̶̧̢̢̨̛̛͔̜̪̰͖̖̗̭̺͚̻̟̯̩̤̥͍̲̺̖̞͎̙̗̩̰͓̹̟̠̫́̑́͌̈̅́̑͆̑́͂̈́͛̾̓̌̄̾̉̿́̽͌̏̆͘͝ͅ