alf2: current state - insights

[Lauli]

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Okay, why is there a beer bottle coming out of an explosive crate?

Smart idea though, that you used the official "explosive" sign for the crate :)
Have you tried making it a bit more orange? I've never seen a red sign before.

[YinYin]

hit D^J or J in the first half of lying on the floor to get up and disappear for a short amount of time

@Lauli (Click to View)

hmm
its not the official warning sign anymore

the beer bottle was lying in front of the crate and got lifted into view

and i prefer red color on it
i've also seen it like that - old signs where the yellow color component probably has faded due to sun light

next up: freeze affinity part 2 or stage 1 places

[Azriel]

stage 1 places

not sure if it's just the gif recording, but the "pause" before the crate's explosion feels a bit wrong



Azriel~

[mfc]

I examined the older projects of YinYin and found these
"Empty HK-Collesium bg" is from Killer LF2.
"Dennis Rocket Kick move" is from K-Dennis; dash + J.
"Woody Knee Dash move" is from K-Woody; dash + J
I liked Woody Knee Dash

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stage-2 (Click to View)

each of these stages will feature a hero as the boss and army character(s) helping him out

Is that Highway >> "a bg" or "a t3 object with hit_j: 1"

[YinYin]

i had not added the fade out effect when i recorded this

@Azriel (Click to View)

not sure if it's just the gif recording, but the "pause" before the crate's explosion feels a bit wrong

its the recording - woody gets stuck in his position without shaking aswell

@xmfcx (Click to View)

I examined the older projects of YinYin and found these
"Empty HK-Collesium bg" is from Killer LF2.

i have actually created it for alf2 before that
but it is included there because every background is supposed to be deserted and empty

"Dennis Rocket Kick move" is from K-Dennis; dash + J.
"Woody Knee Dash move" is from K-Woody; dash + J

yup
but the >>+JA inputs are a much better solution now

Is that Highway >> "a bg" or "a t3 object with hit_j: 1"

t3 with hit_j: 1

next up: guessing game #2
guess the 6 characters appearing in stage 1
and pick a feature of the following list you want to see
the choice with the most correct characters gets posted
hints:
characters guessed correctly for stage 2 will not appear in stage 1
stage 1 has 3 bosses and 3 minions - a total of 6 characters to guess

new list of future features you can pick:
john JA action
john amulet power part 2
deep combo 3
deep combo 4
davis dragon punch kick
freeze affinity part 2
as long as there are characters left to guess the list will expand and the guessing game continues

[Lauli]

So, does the stage mode follow some (rough) storyline?
Are there ordinary enemies in the stages as well (useless bandits for example), or is it just boss and minions?
The road-stage doesn't look that good, I think the marking stripes destroy the perspective.
Also the guardrail doesn't fade into the darkness, unlike the road itself.
Here, I did a quick edit. (I couldn't really do the fade-effect, because I'm lacking in software right now)

Left side - no stripes
Right side - straight stripes

Why does the coliseum have no "borders" on its sides, like the normal VS background?
Will you add more of these background-connections? (Like the broken highway in the forrest, for example)
I think it would really help to blend the substages together if you'd add road signs, or even the skyscrapers in the distance in the beginning of 2-1.

Uh, okay. I think it's Dennis Woody Davis here. Along with Bandit, Mark and Jack.

[mfc]

spoiler: amulet powers (Click to View)

its the pet system combined with something else for the different states
i'm just not lifting john up high above the ground to start it

There was a problem about pet system: If there are more of same characters, it was getting buggy. For example another char could control the pet.
So Is it buggy too for two or more John's?
And what states are u talking about? Will you explain how you combined it with states?

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And I guess I succeed at the flame thingy...
Look at the this: >>CLICKY<<

[YinYin]

spoiler: amulet powers (Click to View)

There was a problem about pet system: If there are more of same characters, it was getting buggy. For example another char could control the pet.
So Is it buggy too for two or more John's?
And what states are u talking about? Will you explain how you combined it with states?

i have not encountered the possible problems yet (and i have tried getting them)
the time frames where two johns can perform the spirit release in the exact same moment at the exact same spot are very small
and even if they are met the only thing that would happen is either getting one more chasing spirit per character or just one for both
which is not much of a problem because they vanish and reappear quite often and don't have much of an effect
with states i mean that john is capable of doing different things than usual

@Lauli (Click to View)

So, does the stage mode follow some (rough) storyline?

very very very rough
i would rather say no

Are there ordinary enemies in the stages as well (useless bandits for example), or is it just boss and minions?

i am just planning boss and minions but maybe there will be a few surprises

The road-stage doesn't look that good, I think the marking stripes destroy the perspective.
Also the guardrail doesn't fade into the darkness, unlike the road itself.

hmm i don't know why the stripes destroy the perspective - i can't have the road without them and they have the exact same perspective
also the rail does fade - maybe not enough

Why does the coliseum have no "borders" on its sides, like the normal VS background?

because the recording does not capture the whole window

Will you add more of these background-connections? (Like the broken highway in the forrest, for example)

whenever i can

I think it would really help to blend the substages together if you'd add road signs, or even the skyscrapers in the distance in the beginning of 2-1.

i have already tried and failed many times
i will try again but the first release might have to go without them

Uh, okay. I think it's Dennis Woody Davis here. Along with Bandit, Mark and Jack.

screw you :p 6/6
it was too easy - and it wont be getting any harder in the future with all those chars already gone - will have to think of something else
what do you want to see?

[Lauli]

hmm i don't know why the stripes destroy the perspective - i can't have the road without them and they have the exact same perspective

I know, it's probably better to have the road with the stripes. Just the way that they are shown in the gif bugs me, it looks as if the whole road itself would be leaning to the sides.

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Also. Ooooh yea :)
Let's see the affinity part 2

[YinYin]

@Lauli (Click to View)

you can't see the right and left border of the perspective roads in this gif - maybe it's better once you see the whole screen
edit: now i get what you mean - it's not skewed

for the sake of leaving you a broader set of choices for now
the guessing game continues
lauli has guessed all bosses and characters of stage 1 right
now it's time to guess which boss appears on what sub stage
and which minion helps out which boss
that's another 6 guesses to get right or wrong

new list of future features you can pick if you guess the most right:
john JA action
john amulet power part 2
deep combo 3
deep combo 4
davis dragon punch kick
rudolf combo