[Char] Trevor Belmont [Released]

[STM1993]

Heh, how many years has it been?

More Screenshots (Click to View)

First real character I've made in a very long time to brush up on some DCing skills.
I can't draw or code the AI(yet), so I took some sprites from sprite database and worked with it.

Features (Click to View)

* HP Regen on standing, walking & running. Dark red HP is refilled, HP bar does not flash.
* Move After Death (MH_Razen) - used to show death animation when hp = 0.
* Double key input (YinYin) - used to access certain moves.
* hit_back (YinYin) - used for remaking the defend frames other than frame 110. Thanks YinYin for helping me understand this technique!
* Unlike normal flipping, will lead to lying frame. However, it offers 100% invincibility from attacks.
* Can grab dizzy enemies & use weapons like normal characters.

Moves List (Click to View)

Basic Moves:
A = Whip
J = Jump
D / >>D = Crouch & Block
D+J = Jump Backwards (bug: can go forward with a trick)
D+A / DA = Crouch whip

Special Moves:
(note: can be used in mid-air and with weapons)
J+A = Throw Dagger (0mp)
D>J = Holy Cross (when it moves backwards, it will disappear if you touch it. State 3006.)
D^J = Throw Axe (thrown upward at an angle)
DvJ = Holy Water (very powerful fire attack, slightly homing downwards)

Download:

  trevorbelmont.rar (Size: 409.98 KB / Downloads: 146)

Install Info (Click to View)

Install Info:
id: 893 type: 0 file: sprite\trevorbelmont\trevorbelmont.dat
id: 894 type: 3 file: sprite\trevorbelmont\trevorbelmont_ball.dat
id: 895 type: 2 file: sprite\trevorbelmont\trevorbelmont_axe.dat
You may replace trevorbelmont's ID with another one, but ball and axe must be those IDs.
Move "trevorbelmont" into your sprite folder (ie: "LF2/sprite").

Original Post (Click to View)

Thought I'd pick up DCing again despite being horribad at it, and used Trevor Belmont's sprites form Castlevania since I can't draw. Here's progress I've made in 12 hours:
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> Uses whip to attack, default without powerups. Complete with the whip sound.
> Able to use weapons. The wpoints should fit the sprite perfectly.
> Cannot grab, but can be grabbed.
> Defend is a crouch along with state 7. You can attack while crouched.
> You can "row" out of injury and falls. I'm not sure whether to keep this or not because its pretty overpowered.

The character is playable, but not complete. This is only his skeleton. I'm planning to give him some moves, but I'm posting anyway since feedback is appreciated.
> Move on death. When he dies, he'll lay down and go to frame 397 and play the death sound from Castlevania 3, instead of merely crouch on death.
> Adding the dagger, cross and axe as moves. They are meant to be used by the AI with ID 3, which has the same AI as Firen. Will not add time-stop as its very finnicky.
> Add DJA as a move that powerups the whip to mace without using transform. I'll see if its a trick related to itr k8.

Have fun!

[A-Man]

Welcome back. I have been here for a while now, but I never saw you before. Also,not sure if you know this already, but people here became pretty allergic to ripped sprites. It does seem really interesting though XD! I must give this a try later! Keep this up!

[Bupkis]

like to see more of your progress later on bro

[Silverthorn]

<-- (points at line under his username)
OMG, WELCOME BACK, SPY!!!!!!!


So, I took a shot at the character. I'm going to say it beforehand, I've never really played castlevania, so I don't know how well certain features are replicated, things intended, or whatsoever. As I assume you plan on adding moves that are related to the original, I can't give you much of an opinion. The following is a list of a few things that came to my mind while testing him:

• I'm not particularly fond of the file-organization (data and sprites all in one folder) but eh.... who cares if it works
  
• Running seems static (increase the framerate on that one).
  
• Laying on ground extremely short. AI usually walks away while you're on ground but here, it doesn't really get enough time to do that and you're almost instantly under fire again.
  
• Can't go to dash from the jump-frames.
  
• Can't grab.
  
• The fact that rowing is now an offensive move kind of threw me off-guard (or did it throw the AI off-guard? We'll never know...). Personally, I think that some sort of evasive skill is necessary, and that's usually the aforementioned rowing.
  
• Flipping after getting knocked out does an unreasonable air-jump and I still land in the lying-frames.
  
• ...and, of course, the sprites. I'm not that much of a fan of retro-styles and unless there is a whole mod of chars and objects styled this way, it becomes quite unblended.
  

All I have for now

@ram the don: 'course do!

Ramond edited this post 02-21-2014 11:17 PM because:

You know/remember Spy?

[YinYin]

Heh, how many years has it been?

Too many.

AI with ID 3, which has the same AI as Firen.

ID 3 has a blank AI. Maybe you should rather consider writing custom AI instead of aiming to use an ID twice.

a move that powerups the whip to mace without using transform. I'll see if its a trick related to itr k8.

I suppose itr kind 8 may be too frickle for that (dynamic change in y direction for example doesn't really work well with it - even though I don't yet know how clunky the controls are so it may not be impossible). Is this supposed to be limited somehow?

[STM1993]

Thanks

Yeah I arranged the files that way so its easy to remove from the game if you don't want this stand-alone char anymore. I don't like having to manually search data and sprites to clear everything.

* Running seems static (increase the framerate on that one).
* Laying on ground extremely short. AI usually walks away while you're on ground but here, it doesn't really get enough time to do that and you're almost instantly under fire again.
* Can't go to dash from the jump-frames.
* Can't grab.

Here is a beginner's Castlevania 1 gameplay. That should give some context.
1) Because character's walk is usually a bit slow, and I've had trouble with the framing because there are only 3 walking sprites but 5 walking frames. I don't know what to do to make it less awkward. As for running, sure I'll take liberties and make the frame rate faster.
2) I'll change it then. Its currently at wait 1 and uses the hurt crouch sprite as I intended it to be used with the move after death. I wanted to replicate the mercy invincibility when you take damage.
3) I know. I'll make the crouch have the actual state 15 instead of state 0 then so it'd be more polished for LF2.
4) Alright, I'll make one. There are two existing sprites that can make a nice grab and punch.

* The fact that rolling is now an offensive move kind of threw me off-guard (or did it throw the AI off-guard? We'll never know...). Personally, I think that some sort of evasive skill is necessary, and that's usually the aforementioned rowing.

Noted. I can't make a convincing roll with the sprites, so I'll probably use the flipping for it but make it appear to be jumping backwards.

* Flipping after getting knocked out does an unreasonable air-jump and I still land in the lying-frames.

I wanted to simulate the getting knocked back effect when you take damage in Castlevania, complete with the invincibility, while at the same time I want this character to be able to suffer from the LF2 injury states.

I have tried using state 100 (louis thunderpunch) and mix with frame 94, but state 100 will cause the character to stop moving in mid-air if dvx and dvy are 0. So I'm kinda at a loss.

I originally wanted to make the character unable to flip as well, but setting the rowing values to 0 just makes the character fall straight down.

1) ID 3 has a blank AI. Maybe you should rather consider writing custom AI instead of aiming to use an ID twice.

2) I suppose itr kind 8 may be too frickle for that (dynamic change in y direction for example doesn't really work well with it - even though I don't yet know how clunky the controls are so it may not be impossible). Is this supposed to be limited somehow?

1) Ah crap, Kate LF2 has deceived me! AI scripting eh? That's new, I'll look into it once the data itself is done.

2) My aim is to upgrade all the whip attacks. What I'm thinking of is to make DJA opoint a k8 ball that sticks to the character with an unreachable itr. Whenever the character attacks, the ball will catch a hidden bdy and change the character's usual attack into the upgrade. I'm not too worried about the y-axis atm since I could just give the hitbox a sufficiently high height to compensate for the player jumping. As for limitation, I'm hoping to make it lost either by timer or getting knocked down.

[Alapottra]

Welcome back and wow nic project

[STM1993]

Update 1:
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• Can now grab stunned opponents
  
• Added move on death; plays death animation
  
• Added dagger(D>A), axe(D^A/J) and holy water(DvJ) throw. Can throw in mid-air.
  
• Has proper broken_defense frames
  
• Walking now uses 5 new sprites
  
• Rolling now goes into defend(crouch w/state 7, can duck under a few attacks). Pressing J while in defend will allow user to jump backwards.
  
• Removed ability to flip out of injury frames; restricted only for falling(which now has bdy like normal characters). It doesn't put you into standing frame immediately, the point of this rowing is to give yourself invincibility to prevent taking further damage. sorcerers and jacks spamming their balls until you lose over 300hp *shudder*
  
• Improved lying and invincibility timer. Improved hitboxes. Allow dashing after jumping.

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Note:

• D>A(+A), D^A/J(+A), DvJ.
  
• Will be adding Holy Cross(D>J), Whip upgrade(DvA) and proper AI next.
  
• Don't know what to do with holy water without making a whole new ID for it as I've done to make axe type 2. Because of hit_Fa 7, it can use hit_ground, but at the cost of making the bottle slightly homing...
  
• I'll remove all previous attachments once the final version is released.

EDIT:
I just read a couple of things from Y2F's site. Time to try mess with the defend button and JA.

[The Hari]

Looks like you forgot about readme/new lines to data?
Wpoint in crouch attack isn't set properly. Maybe make him quickly shift weapon to second hand?
Also in D+J you can jump in any direction, not only backward, is it intended?

[STM1993]

Alright, final version is out.

I've taken most of Hari's suggestions. Can't fix the D+J issue, so I left it in as a hidden feature. Decided to just implement whip upgrade directly into the character; an actual upgrade is too finicky. Didn't include AI as I don't know how to code and it'd take me a while to learn (I have zero coding background), so I thought I'd just release it as the final version.

Download and video and everything is in the first post. I've included a readme in the download as well.